Listen here: https://veganvanguardpodcast.com/26-permaculture-for-post-capitalism-with-becky-ellis/
"In this episode, Mexie interviews Becky Ellis, a PhD candidate at the University of Western Ontario and the host of the Permaculture fo the People podcast, about how and why permaculture is important for envisioning a sustainable post-capitalist future. Becky explains the fundamentals of permaculture and why the ethics of permaculture are inherently radical. We discuss issues around colonial-capitalist property regimes that both leftist and permaculture movements must address, as well as how permaculture can add to other radical social movements concerned with both human and animal liberation. To thrive in the 21st century, our post-capitalist world-building needs to radically re-envision our relationships to one another as well as to all of the other species in the ecosystems of which we form part."